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not much [Jul. 13th, 2006|11:29 pm]
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Nothing much to report in my life. Things are fine, kinda boring. Mostly catching up from working way too much the last week or so.

Board games at Tom's tonight. We played Fearsome Floors, and it takes a LOT longer with six people who are actually thinking about strategy. (Last time, it was very late and we all played kind of haphazardly.)

My workshop at the beginning of the week went well. It was kind of a pain to have to catch the bus early enough to show up at 8:30, but the S bus goes right by the hotel it was at, at least.

Work is back to busy, but not stressful. I'm getting good at saying "yes, I can do that, but not until next week" to keep things from getting overwhelming. Hooray for having work that's mostly without built-in deadlines.

My coworkers are totally amazed by my super-ergonomic Kinesis keyboard.
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[User Picture]From: eto_theipi
2006-07-14 06:29 am (UTC)
Over the course of my last few jobs, I've gotten three different companies to buy Kinesii for me. Now I have one for home, one for work, and one to loan to people who're curious about it and get them hooked...
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[User Picture]From: nematsakis
2006-07-14 06:38 am (UTC)
Hooray for Kinesis! (well, mostly)

My coworkers at Novell had apparently never seen a kinesis either before I brought mine in, which surprises me since they're all professional programmers.

As much as I like my Kinesis, I do wish the company would develop additional models. Leper has suggested the "coders kinesis" with the left and right thumbs having an additional row of braces: (, {, [, <, >, ], }, ). It would certainly make my coding more efficient.
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-14 06:26 pm (UTC)
Wow, totally.

Actually, I wonder how it would do to just have an extra modifier key that turned all the letter keys into symbol keys, and got rid of all the awkwardly-placed non-letter keys.
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[User Picture]From: bats22
2006-07-14 12:52 pm (UTC)
It was kind of a pain to have to catch the bus early enough to show up at 8:30, but the S bus goes right by the hotel it was at, at least.

Out of curiosity, did you take the bus because (1) one of the boyz needed the car, (2) the car's in the shop, (3) it was more convenient to bus to this site, or (4) a desire to support public transit? I sometimes tkae the bus myself to prove, "See! You don't need a car in this case!"
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-14 06:29 pm (UTC)
I'm carless all summer long, because Jerry's working down in Aurora, so he needs the Jetta (which gets decent gas mileage), Greg needs the van to get to the library, and, well, I have a bus pass and am able to get to work by bus. So I am Mr. No-Car.

I don't really mind taking the bus, but I do mind that it takes 4 times as long as driving does, much of which is due to the fact that after I get off the bus, I have to wait 25 minutes for the half-hourly shuttle from work...
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[User Picture]From: earthling177
2006-07-15 09:31 am (UTC)
Well, this is kind of offtopic, but is there any reason why Jerry's livejournal got deleted or did someone hack into his LJ? I guess I'm asking less "why did he delete his LJ" and am more asking if he knows about it, given that I keep hearing people complaining that their LJ got hacked into and I just noticed on my friends list that his journal was gone. (And hugs to everyone there.)
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[User Picture]From: melted_snowball
2006-07-14 08:21 pm (UTC)
? You live 10 minutes from the university.

[I presume you mean you take the bus not in W'loo?]
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[User Picture]From: bats22
2006-07-15 02:03 am (UTC)
? You live 10 minutes from the university.

Actually, it's a 20 minute walk (at least at my speed)--although I don't take the bus to school.


I typically now take Greyhound to TO, instead of driving--I've been pretty happy with it. Also, heading to Farmer's Market is a bit of a haul to walk both ways--I have done the walk one way/bus back route.
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[User Picture]From: dcseain
2006-07-14 02:21 pm (UTC)
Which Kinesis model do you prefer?
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-14 06:32 pm (UTC)
The one with the scoopy keywells:

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/contoured.htm

In grad school I had a keyboard tray, but now I just put it in my lap, which lets me type in a super-neutral position.
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[User Picture]From: dcseain
2006-07-25 09:01 pm (UTC)
How programmable are they? Specifically, i'd want to swith the Space and Backspace keys, as i space left-handed, and i don't want to relearn that bit if i don't have to; i've been typing for decades.

Oh, and i can't tell from the photos, is 10-key number entry built-in?
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-25 09:16 pm (UTC)
It's massively programmable. You can remap any key to any other key. (And they give you a little key-pulling tool so you can switch the keycaps, too.)

It has a "keypad" button that changes a bunch of the right-hand keys into a 10-key numberpad:
890    becomes   =/* 
uiop		 789-
jkl;		 456+
m,.		 123 


I can even instantly convert mine instantly to Dvorak, though I've never used it...
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[User Picture]From: dcseain
2006-07-25 09:26 pm (UTC)
Cool, thanks. I type w/Dvorak, so that's perfect. I think that i'll get one and give it a go.
Er, wait. No 0?
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-25 09:42 pm (UTC)
0 is on the space key. =)
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[User Picture]From: ng_nighthawk
2006-07-14 04:25 pm (UTC)
I have started getting pains in my wrist/thumb area--it feels like a pulled tendon, no tingly "nerves are confused or compressed" feeling yet (or ever? maybe I just pulled a tendon).

Anyway, I'm getting nervous because my income is kinda based on using my hands, and about 6 months ago my ergonomic keyboard just kinda gave up the ghost (it was not that new, so I wasn't shocked). Perhaps age 30+, non-ergo keyboard, plus constant typing = badness. There's only one piece of that equation I can really change effectively.

Anyway, long story short (too late!) I probably should buy an ergonomic keyboard. Do you know a good place to shop for them where I can sit down and test run a few different types?
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[User Picture]From: nematsakis
2006-07-14 04:48 pm (UTC)
I'd like to point out that the first few days of typing on a Kinesis is painful. You have to relearn a lot of things as well. My Kinesis was a gift from my lovely wife and I was willing to make the effort, but I think it's difficult to spend the hundreds of dollars on one without the faith that it will work out in the end.
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[User Picture]From: ng_nighthawk
2006-07-14 04:50 pm (UTC)
Hmmm. . . although this kinda tells me that a "test run" isn't going to tell me much about the long-term comfort/benefit. Any thoughts on, if I did decide to go with one of these, how to decide if it's a good fit?
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[User Picture]From: eto_theipi
2006-07-14 05:23 pm (UTC)
I didn't have pain when I started with the Kinesis. I was definitely slower, but it was comfortable for me from day one.

I had the benefit of MIT's ATIC (Adaptive Technologies for... something) lab when I was investigating alternate keyboards. They let me try out a variety of options ranging from "natural" keyboards to DataHands for as long as I wanted to sit there. Perhaps a university near you has a similar facility?
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-14 06:38 pm (UTC)
Yeah, mine never hurt, I just felt clumsy and incompetent for a week or two...
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[User Picture]From: boat_of_car
2006-07-14 06:27 pm (UTC)

Ergo stuff

Advice from our ergo research folks:
http://www.uchsc.edu/atp/library/fastfacts/ergonkey1.htm

The home page for the Physical medicine and Rehabilitation Clinics ( the first of it's kind in Colorado)
http://www.uchsc.edu/pmr/clinical_services/services_uch.htm
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-14 06:37 pm (UTC)
What other folks said. I don't really know any places to try them out, although we could probably arrange something where you could dink around with my kinesis for a little bit and see what you think.

Don't forget the mouse! Mice are evil. I'm much happier using a trackball.
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[User Picture]From: goobermunch
2006-07-14 10:41 pm (UTC)
Of course, if you're like me and hate, Hate, HATE trackballs, there is another ergonomic option: a vertical mouse. It's supposedly more friendly.

--G
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[User Picture]From: dr_tectonic
2006-07-15 01:32 am (UTC)
I have one of those, too. It is better than a regular mouse, although clicking is a little weird sometimes.

Why you hatin' on the trackball?
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